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Two Grand Old Williams:
Mr Gladstone Meets General Booth

by Tom Aitken

 

Gladstone Umbrella, St Deiniol’s Library, 14 July 2007

 

On 29 October 1890, William Booth, General of The Salvation Army, wrote from his headquarters at 101 Queen Victoria Street, London, to William Gladstone, four times Prime Minister, at the castle across the road:

‘My Dear Sir,

‘I have the pleasure to forward you by this post my book “In Darkest England” with the full assurance that the subject of which it treats and the “Scheme” it sets forth will be regarded by you as of sufficient importance to ensure your careful consideration.

‘With sincere respect,

‘Yours faithfully…’

 

The copy is in the library here, inscribed ‘With faith and hope, William Booth”. 

 

You may think that Booth was presumptuous in that he does not crave the Grand Old Man’s indulgence or otherwise grovel. Rather, he asserts ‘full assurance’ of Gladstone’s ‘careful attention’.

 

Was he merely writing according to the conventions? Or was he actually confident? The answers to those questions will tell us much about Booth but also something about Gladstone. Perhaps I should settle questions about my baseline in advance by saying unequivocally that I share with Roy Hattersley the view that, for all their faults, William Booth and his wife Catherine ‘deserve a place in the pantheon of Great Victorians’.    

 

Back to 1890: Until not long before that time the press, when referring to Booth, had habitually fenced the designation ‘General’ with inverted commas. In this they were following the lead of Queen Victoria, who in 1878, when what had been the ‘Christian Mission’ was renamed ‘The Salvation Army’, complained that Booth’s assumption of the title ‘General’ and his foundation of an Army within her realm usurped prerogatives that were hers alone. But––and this illustrates one of his remarkable abilities––he turned the tables on her four years later. He had invited Her Majesty to contribute to an appeal for funds and received a message regretting her inability to do so. The brush off, however, included mollifying words of glacial approval: Her Majesty felt ‘much satisfaction that you have, with other members of your society, been successful in your efforts to win many thousands to the ways of temperance, virtue and religion’. Booth, scenting a PR coup, published the letter, in well-spaced type with bold headlines, on the front page of The War Cry. It was read out to thousands of cheering Salvationists assembled in the Alexandra Palace to celebrate the 17th anniversary of the foundation of the Christian Mission. As St John Ervine writes, this was ‘an example of Booth’s extraordinary ability for turning a snub into a compliment and almost persuaded people that the Queen had contributed to the Fund or that her refusal to do so was…due to… sheer shortness of cash’.   (Later, after Victoria’s death Edward VII showed an interest in The Salvation Army––after which Booth was welcomed by royalty and heads of state all over the world.)

 

Meanwhile, in 1890, the year when he wrote to Gladstone, he pulled off another, albeit rather different, PR coup. He had been planning for some time a scheme of social regeneration and to launch it by publishing a book. Casting about for a title he happened to read a book published that year by Henry Morton Stanley, intrepid Welsh explorer and finder of Livingstone. Stanley called his book In Darkest Africa, and Booth immediately put the concept to his own use. His book and the associated scheme were called In Darkest England and the Way Out.

 

Nowadays, I suppose, we would blench at any reference to ‘darkest Africa’. Booth did not blench and was blunt about his reason for appropriating the opprobrious word:

 ‘…while brooding over the awful presentation of life as it exists in the vast African forest, it seemed to me only too vivid a picture of many parts of our own land. As there is a darkest Africa is there not also a darkest England… May we not find a parallel at our own doors, and discover within a stone’s throw of our cathedrals and palaces similar horrors to those which Stanley has found existing in the great equatorial forest? …As in Africa it is all trees, trees, trees, with no other world conceivable; so is it here––it is all vice and poverty and crime.’

 

It was this book he sent to Gladstone in late October and this scheme for which he sought his aid as sponsor. The book took hold of the public’s conscience and imagination, selling 200,000 copies in its first year. It was also savagely attacked. Booth’s use of statistics, it was claimed was loose, exaggerated and tendentious. He gave the impression of believing that he was the first person ever to notice the condition and sufferings of what he called ‘the submerged tenth’. Furthermore, his passion for systematic social amelioration was strangely new-fangled: until about 1887 he had set his face against taking his evangelical army in the direction of large scale social work. Worst of all, although his name appeared alone on spine and title page, he had not written the book himself.

 

Hostile critics made much of this alleged deception of the public. There is still some disagreement among historians as to who wrote what, but it seems clear that Booth had in fact written a good deal of the material at the bedside of his dying wife, Catherine. After her appallingly painful death early in 1890 (she had refused an operation for breast cancer) he asked the crusading journalist and friend of the Army W.T. Stead to recommend a competent journalist who could pull it into shape. Stead volunteered to do it himself. Later he wrote to a friend that phrases written by him appeared in every chapter and he had enriched Booth’s material with quotations from historians (especially Carlyle) and other writers whom Booth had almost certainly never read. But Stead also asserted publicly that to claim that book and scheme were his or anybody else’s but Booth’s was absurd. (However I must stop talking about Stead, however, or we’ll never get to Gladstone; suffice to say that Stead was a red-bearded ball of energy, self-styled pope of journalism whose telegraphic address was ‘Vatican, London’ and add that his association with The Salvation Army over many decades was colourful, to say the least. He lost his life aboard the Titanic.) To be fair to Booth, he did include an acknowledgement of ‘literary help’ in the 1890 Preface.

 

Two relatively junior Salvation Army officers were also involved. Frank Smith, a committed socialist known to his fellows as ‘the red Major’, was one. The other was an American woman called Suzie Swift. It seems clear that it was these two who pushed Booth towards social work. Both, however, have tended to be written out of the story by Salvationist historians. Partly this was because Booth was nothing if not an egotist. The pronoun ‘I’ appears over and again in the text in contexts where a more sensitive man would have written ‘We’. It is also the case that Smith and Swift in a manner of speaking wrote themselves out of it, blotting their copybooks seriously and quite soon, by leaving the Salvation Army. Smith henceforward pursued social reform as a socialist rather than a Salvationist, serving on the London County Council and, at the age of 75, as MP for Nuneaton. Swift went back to America and became a nun.

 

By the time Gladstone and Booth met, shortly before Christmas, Gladstone may or may not have read In Darkest England. Certainly, however, he would have read the four long letters written to The Times by T.H. Huxley, excoriating Booth, his book and the scheme. Huxley, the Richard Dawkins of his day, known as ‘Darwin’s bulldog’ wrote 12 letters to the Thunderer, some of them very long, between December 1 and and January 22. These letters would, if anything, have caused Gladstone to look on Booth with benevolence, since he himself had tangled publicly with Huxley on the subjects of Darwinism and religion.

 

A few quotations will give you Huxley’s tone:

Booth’s leading propositions, he writes, include the notion that ‘the only adequate means to… reformation of the individual man is the adoption of that form of somewhat corybantic Christianity of which the soldiers of the Salvation Army are the militant missionaries.’

‘Whoever becomes a Salvation officer is henceforth a slave, helplessly exposed to the caprice of his superiors.’

‘Few social evils are of greater magnitude than uninstructed and unchastened religious fanaticism; no personal habit more surely degrades the conscience and the intellect than blind and unhesitating obedience to unlimited authority.’

 

As well as this torrent of correspondence Huxley wrote a pamphlet about the Darkest England scheme under the catchy title The Wrong Way to do the Wrong Thing.

 

What was the scheme and was it any good? Its intention was to end unemployment in Britain by progressively by taking the jobless into city workshops and moving them thence to farm colonies and, finally, to overseas colonies. Thus, people from the kingdom’s worst slums and hell-holes could be helped to find their way out. This idea, as Booth had acknowledged early in 1889, was taken from a pamphlet on poverty by the Earl of Meath, which the noble Irish lord, developed in his book. Social Arrows (1886)

 

Booth had borrowed ideas from other secular reformists as well as from religious sources. You will notice that that the scheme to an extent posits the continuing extent and power of the British Empire, a point that made it less than universally popular amongst American Salvationists. Gladstone, perhaps, could have heard echoes of his own much earlier scheme for settling British transportees in Queensland, which I talked about here three years ago.

 

Were scheme and book any good? For a long time after Booth’s death sociologists and social historians tended to discount it, preferring their disciplines to be uncontaminated by religious revivalism. Undeniably William’s namesake, Charles Booth wrote in Life and Labour of the People (1889) a more measured and even-handed book. And, by interviewing the people themselves he gave his readers the truth of their attitudes and feeling, whereas. William Booth’s equivalent was reports written by Salvationist officers, who naturally interpreted what they described according to their Salvationist mind-set. One of the things that academics most disliked about Booth’s book is that they have spotted that it is not in any real sense a sociological account. Rather, as Roger Joseph Green, one of Booth’s many biographers explains, it develops a Wesleyan theology of personal and social redemption, seen intially side by side as equally necessary but different in kind, later as two sides of the same coin.

 

Some institutions set up in connection with the scheme, still exist but have evolved. There is a farm at Hadleigh in Essex owned and run by the Salvation Army. The farm is a commercial venture, a rare breeds centre which subsidises the Army’s social fund. It also houses an Employment Training Centre for people with learning disabilities and long-term unemployed, teaching them carpentry, catering, office skills and computing, estate management, horticulture, retail and graphics. The city workshops––now called Adult Rehabilitation Centres––are still to be found, particularly in the United States.

 

The Overseas Colonies have gone the way of the British Empire.

 

But the principal legacy of the scheme is the irreversible trend it set in motion whereby the Salvation Army became known in all of the 111 countries where it operates as providers of care and emergency support rather than as the evangelical mission it originally was.  This is often regarded as a mixed blessing. It is ruefully admitted to be the case that without subsidies from governments and donors the Salvation Army might by now have ceased to exist, or at least dwindled almost to vanishing point. Nevertheless, these tensions have their constructive side. And, despite Huxley’s complaints about the supremacy of William Booth, it was the loyalty and obedience he inspired which allowed the Army to survive the radical change from revivalist movement into something altogether more original.

 

But insofar as there was a ‘darkest England’ in 1890, I suppose we must accept that it is still there.

 

We will hear later on some of what Gladstone said to Booth on the subject but we will also see that, as often happened when Booth was hob-nobbing with royalty and public figures, he does not always seem to understand exactly what is going on.

 

The Booths had tried to enlist Gladstone’s aid twice previously. In 1881, during a wave of violent attacks on Salvationists all over the country, the magistrates of Stamford in Lincolnshire wrote to the Home Secretary, Sir William Harcourt asking for advice as to what they should do if the Salvation Army appeared on their patch and was attacked by roughs. Harcourt, evidently not much committed to defending of rights of assembly, opined that ‘…while Salvation Army processions not being illegal in themselves… cannot be legally prevented’, the magistrates, might obtain a sworn information from the Chief Constable that such a demonstration ‘might provoke hostility’ and intervene forcibly to prevent it. (Demo in Parliament Square, anyone?) Booth wrote indignantly to Gladstone. The Times and the Solicitors’ Journal reproved Harcourt on legal grounds. There was a widespread storm of protest which in the long run did the Army good. Meanwhile, however, the violence continued, apparently with the blessing of the authorities, who continued to send Salvationists to jail because they had been attacked.

 

Gladstone appears not have responded. He may well have been preoccupied, since that was the month in which Charles Stewart Parnell was arrested and held without trial. Even Gladstone might have found it difficult to reprove the Home Secretary for a putative suppression of civil rights in Stamford when a real one was taking place in Dublin.

 

Fourteen years later, in 1885, national affairs once again prevented Gladstone from acceding to a request from the Booths. Mrs Booth wrote to him asking that a bill which had been talked out earlier in the year be reintroduced so that the age of consent could be raised to sixteen, which would make it easier to combat the trade in very young prostitutes which W.T. Stead had dubbed ‘The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon’. Gladstone replied that he sympathized and the government had introduced the bill in the first place. But ‘at a moment like the present’ he could only regret that he ‘could not undertake to examine personally the questions you touch on’.  The ‘moment like the present’ was the moment when Gladstone’s government fell in the wake of the fall of Khartoum and the death of Gordon, and mounting violence in Ireland. It was Lord Salisbury’s Conservative government which presided over the scandalous period when Stead mounted his newspaper campaign and he and Bramwell Booth staged a mock abduction to show how easy it was to trade in young girls. Both ended up in court and Bramwell barely escaped a jail sentence.

 

I don’t intend to suggest that Gladstone can be held to account for these events, merely to point out that when in 1890 William Booth asked once more for Gladstone’s help with his Darkest England scheme, his ‘full assurance’ that consideration would be given was something of a triumph of hope over experience. But, he may have reasoned that since Gladstone was now out of office he might, if he retained any of his former prodigious energy, be pleased by the idea of another cause to fight for.

 

There appears, however, to have been no very swift response. Less than a fortnight after his first letter, on 11 November, Booth wrote again asking specifically for financial support for his scheme––or for an endorsement of some kind to encourage other possible donors. He appended a list of existing donors and the amounts they had subscribed, with ranged from £50 to £1500––not insignificant sums––which was just as well, given that Booth required £100,000 to commence operations. (He had immediate second thoughts about “required”, substituting the less peremptory “needed”. Both letters, you will understand, were written in his own hand, with occasional crossings out.)

 

Whether Mr Gladstone responded to Booth’s suggestions I do not know.

 

Time passes. Some time in November or early December, Gladstone heard from Booth again. The General would be conducting meetings at Keighly on Sunday 20 December and would like if Gladstone agreed, to call on him at Hawarden on his way back to London. (As you know, this requires a noticeable detour and Booth was at this date still traveling everywhere by train.)

 

So, to the meeting… (I quote) ‘Three o’clock on Monday afternoon, December 21st, had been fixed by Mr Gladstone for my interview with him at Hawarden Castle, and passing over from Keighly… I reached the beautiful park in which it is situated a few minutes before that time’.

 

Mrs Gladstone made him feel at home. ‘I was cold through, and Mrs Gladstone saw it. Putting one of those delightful old-fashioned easy chairs––the manufacture of which is a lost art so far as this country is concerned––before the great, open fire, she insisted upon my getting a thorough warm, and we were soon talking away as though we had been acquainted for years.

 

‘In a few moments the door of the adjoining room opened, and in walked Mr Gladstone, stretching out his hand, greeting me in the heartiest manner, and putting an end to the little colloquy with the ladies by summoning me forthwith to the library.’ Mrs Gladstone remarked how cold Booth was and Gladstone told her that he would find the library warmer.

 

Studying Gladstone’s appearance as they talked Booth found no trace of the hardness he had detected in photographs: ‘…intelligent, expressive quick and commanding in a high degree, his face appeared equally sympathetic’.

 

Gladstone made sure the fire was well stoked then asked Booth if he preferred to be addressed as ‘General’. The reply Booth says he gave is a masterpiece of disingenuity:

 

I replied ‘Yes,’ that was the appellation ordinarily given me, that I thought it duly signified my position, and I accepted it for that reason. I explained that I had not sought it, and was at the beginning strongly opposed to its use; but that having come to be the head of what was known as an Army, there seemed to be no alternative but to accept the title.

 

How I wish I could have watched Gladstone listening to this. But I should add that not long after, when he read and annotated Catherine Booth’s book The Salvation Army in Relation to Church and State, he approved of her statement that ‘with an Army no other method could be better’.

 

Gladstone agreed that titles had value. Booth enlarged on the theme that military ranks were everywhere understood: ‘No matter how poor, untrained, or undisciplined a man might be, he knew the meaning of “Captain” when he joined a corps, and that it implied authority and obedience.

 

‘”Yes,” remarked Mr Gladstone, “everybody knows the meaning of ‘Captain.’”’

 

After this, Gladstone may have narrowed his eyes a little, asking a series of searching questions about the Army’s organization and methods. How did its central leadership keep control in so many distant parts of the world without stifling local action and initiative? Were many of the officers in non-English-speaking countries sent out from England? How many such officers were there? He was surprised by the answer that between two and five hundred were sent out every year, commenting that this was remarkable evidence of the strength and vitality of the movement. He was further impressed by the news there were over 12,000 Salvation Army officers worldwide and that something considerably over a million sterling, made up from collections from Salvationists and donations by well wishers, was necessary to keep the organization going. Interestingly Booth was unable to be sure of precise figures of membership and financial figures. He did not tell Gladstone that the person who would have had such facts at his fingertips was his son and Chief of Staff, Bramwell.

 

They discussed the Army’s impact in Europe, touching on the gradual improvement of relations with initially hostile governments and Booth’s view that they had received no more opposition from Catholic than from Protestant clergy. Gladstone was particularly interested in the Army’s impact in Italy where, it may surprise you to know, it has been permanently established––after one false start––since 1893. They discussed conversion, self-denial, Cardinal Manning, Salvation Army publications and self-righteousness. Gladstone was dismayed at how often this last was criticised by religious folk. He could not imagine how anyone could ever suppose that anything he had done was worthy of being set before God, but for all that, any form of righteousness was better than none. 

 

In the middle of the conversation Gladstone asked, with apologies, the question which makes this amiable conversation historically important. Had arrangements been made for choosing Booth’s successor and if so, what were they? He was clearly amazed by the answer, that Booth had nominated his successor and the name, known to no one but himself, was held in a sealed envelope. He could if he saw fit change it at any time. His successor’s first duty would be to nominate his own successor, following the same procedure. This had been formalized in a Foundation Deed enrolled in the High Court.

 

Gladstone thought this legal precaution wise but his mind clearly boggled at the strangeness of the provision. As Booth puts it, ‘…he seemed to wander over the whole world, looking in upon every work––Religious, Philanthropic and Secular’––in order to find a similar instance. He thought there might be some as late as the sixteenth century. ‘Even the Pope is elected by a conclave of Cardinals’, he said with what, I would guess, was a certain asperity.

 

Booth admitted that there was a scheme, ‘now being completed, for providing against the possible contingency of a General passing away who had neglected the appointment of his successor, or who, for some calamitous reason, had been proved incapable for, or unworthy of, his position, and for soliciting a new General in an Assembly of all our Commissioners throughout the world.’ He mentioned some possible reasons which might make this necessary, to which Gladstone added, interestingly, heresy.

 

It is hard to tell, of course, but there is a possibility that Booth was rather pleased that the conversation took this turn. When, nearly eight years later, another Deed Poll was drawn, it was said to have been the result of Gladstone’s advice. Three clauses provided for the removal of a General from office by a specially summoned High Council of Commissioners) on grounds of (to summarise) lunacy or physical infirmity (four to one majority required), misconduct (nine to one majority required), or unfitness for office (75% of votes required).

 

By one of those very sad ironies that stud human history, this provision has only once been invoked, and the hapless victim was William Booth’s son, Bramwell. This is not the occasion to go into what happened in detail but I will offer two comments. The first is that Bramwell felt bound to preserve The Salvation Army as the organization his father had conceived and created. This included the sealed envelope. He refused to contemplate an election instead and this in the end did for him. We do not know who his choice of successor was because his enveloped was burned unopened. However it is salutary to note that it was widely thought that he had chosen his daughter Catherine. Some of you may remember the sparky old lady who enlivened Parkinson’s and other television chat shows in the late 1970s.  She died aged one hundred. Had she become General she would undoubtedly stayed in post until her death as William had done and as Bramwell intended to do. Whether almost one hundred and twenty years of continuous Booth leadership would have been a Good Thing many Salvationists would doubt. The other point I would make that the politics of deposing Bramwell and eliminating the sealed envelope required him to be deposed under clause 3––unfitness for office. This, unsurprisingly, was savagely resented by the Booth family and remains a sensitive issue within the Army.

 

Before William Booth left the castle that December afternoon Gladstone asked whether there was a book giving an account of the Army’s history and methods. Booth said he would send one. Gladstone may have been surprised and less than pleased when the package arrived. It contained 17 books, many of them thick ones. Quite a few were by William himself. However, General did have the grace to enclose enclosed a note indicating which specific parts of each book might be of most use to Gladstone.

 

(Three  of these books, incidentally, are on the shelves in the library here. One has annotations. Others may be over at the castle. I hope to find out this afternoon—and see whether they show any sign of having been looked through.) [1]

 

You may be interested in Booth’s assessment of his host. The General was a shrewd and blunt judge of his fellow human beings, but he never quite got over the fact he was a former pawnbroker’s apprentice who in old age found himself taking tea with royalty and statesmen. Whenever such a conversation took place an account of it would be published in The War Cry or, as in this case, as a small book. Booth’s account of his meeting, at Buckingham Palace in 1909, with Queen Alexandra, the Dowager Empress of Russia and Princess Victoria is a classic of unconscious comedy.

 

Here is some of what he has to say about Gladstone:

‘Mr Gladstone is as rapid as he is a forcible and interesting talker. He scarcely paused for a moment in his friendly cross-examination, every question bearing directly and intelligently either on one of our principles of action, or some important aspect of the results that follow. There was not a wasted word. There was not a vestige of that conceited method of interrogation which is intended to assert the superiority of the nterrogator and to mark his condescension in being willing to receive the information one has to convey. Nor was there a hint of that impatience which is so common in the manner of some men when dealing with what they are pleased to call “emotional religion”. Nothing could have been more impressive or more charming than the quiet dignity and the thoughtful gentleness, and yet lightning penetration, with which Mr Gladstone discussed with me the Salvation Army, its system, its peculiarities, its principles, its future, that afternoon.’

 

Note the use of the term ‘cross-examination’. Booth occasionally seems to suggest that he may have asked questions of Gladstone but he records none. The overwhelming impression given by his account (I think unintentionally) is that Gladstone asked all the questions, shaping the discussion as he wished. Indeed, since Booth makes no mention of the Darkest England scheme being discussed, it may be that Gladstone deliberately kept it at bay, not wantin to have to make a direct refusal to become overtly a supporter.

 

Apart from his conversational acuity Gladstone impressed Booth in other ways. His ‘unaffected earnestness’ tops the list. Booth was used enough to important people asking ‘commonplace questions’ with only languid interest’. In contrast, Gladstone’s unmistakable concern to hear and know what the Army was doing and what was the inner meaning of it all moved him deeply. The way Gladstone went straight to ‘the very vitals’ of each subject as it came up and the disinterestedness of his questions and manner also impressed him. He had no ulterior motive of personal axe to grind. (That’s my cliché, not Booth’s––and I suppose that in this context it’s unfortunate!)

 

He was carried away by Gladstone’s unhesitating flow of beautiful and expressive words, exact shades of meaning and mellifluous delivery. ‘It is a luxury to listen to him. It is a shame for him to be silent.’

 

How unlike the views of their own dear Queen!

 

Booth concluded with A SALVATIONIST QUESTION––AND THE ANSWER:

‘My Salvationist friends will ask me how far I was impressed with Mr Gladstone’s religious realizations? I shall answer that I had not much opportunity for judging; but I may say that not only was the whole tenour of that conversation favourable to such a conclusion, but that there were passages in that interchange of thought, views and feelings, and feelings that produced on my mind very forcibly the impression that, among the many things carefully considered and experimentally known to W.E. Gladstone, are the governing influences of the Holy Spirit and the saving grace of God.’

 

When Booth returned to London he produced an account of the conversation for publication. He says in a letter to Gladstone that he had originally had no intention of publishing their talk. This may indeed have been the first time he had done such a thing; if so he made up for lost time in the following two decades. Meanwhile, he assured Gladstone that his interest in the Army’s work would be ‘a cheer to my people throughout the world… in their desperate struggle with sin and misery; and what may be far more important may induce others possessing influence and authority in this and other countries to look more closely into our doings.’

 

Gladstone wrote in reply that their talk had helped him ‘to look out upon the wide world and reflect with reverence on the singular diversity of the instruments which are in operation for recovering mankind, according to the sense of those who use them, from their condition of sin and misery; and encourages hearty good will towards all that, under whatever name, is done with a genuine purpose to promote the work of God in the world…’

 

I don’t think that Roy Hattersley is right when he writes that Booth’s account ‘showed every sign of Mr Gladstone fulfilling an unwelcome commitment with patience and courtesy’. Gladstone could easily enough have avoided the commitment had he wanted to. However I agree with Hattersley that the conclusion of Gladstone’s letter to Booth, which is printed in the pamphlet comes very close to being a reproof:

‘Your account will go forth on your own responsibility, and will not, I apprehend, require me to take any step with regard to it.

‘Believe me to remain, with all good wishes,

   Faithfully yours,

   ‘W.E. Gladstone

   ‘Hawarden

   ‘Jan. 2, 1897’

 

Things moved quickly in those days. The conversation took place on December 21. Booth’s published introductory note is dated Jan 6 and the book was in print soon after.

 

Perhaps the meeting between the two can best be summed up by the remark that  Isaiah Berlin borrowed from the Greek poet Archilocus: ‘The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing’. We all know about the many things Gladstone knew. The one big thing that Booth knew was that mankind needed to be saved.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Bibliography  

Berlin, Isaiah, The Hedgehog and the Fox: An essay on Tolstoy’s view of history, London, 1999

Booth, Catherine, The Salvation Army in Relation to Church and State, London, 1883

Booth, William, A Talk with Mr Gladstone at His Own Fireside, London, 1897

                            In Darkest England and the Way Out, London 1890

Ervine, St John, God’s Soldier: General William Booth, London, 1934

Hattersley, Roy, Blood and Fire: William and Catherine Booth and Their Salvation Army, London, 1999

Murdoch, Norman H., Origins of The Salvation Army, Knoxville, 1994

William Booth’s In Darkest England and the Way Out: A Reappraisal, Nampa

Sandall, Robert, The History of The Salvation Army, vol. Two, London, 1950

                            The History of the Salvation Army, vol. Three, London, 1955

had no intention of publishing teir talk. This may indeed have been the first time he had done such a thing; if so he made up for lost time in the following two decades. Meanwhile, he assured Gladstone that his interest in the Army’s work would be ‘a cheer to my people throughout the world… in their desperate struggle with sin and misery; and what may be far more important may induce others possessing influence and authority in this and other countries to look more closely into our doings.’

   Gladstone wrote in reply that their talk had helped him ‘to look out upon the wide world and reflect with reverence on the singular diversity of the instruments which are in operation for recovering mankind, according to the sense of those who use them, from their condition of sin and misery; and encourages hearty good will towards all that, under whatever name, is done with a genuine purpose to promote the work of God in the world…’

   For all that, I cannot argue that Roy Hattersley is wrong when he writes that Booth’s account ‘showed every sign of Mr Gladstone fulfilling an unwelcome commitment with patience and courtesy. And, as Hattersley also writes, the conclusion of Gladstone’s letter to Booth, which is printed in the pamphlet comes very close to being a reproof:

   ‘Your account will go forth on your own responsibility, and will not, I apprehend, require me to take any step with regard to it.

  ‘Believe me to remain, with all good wishes,

   Faithfully yours,

   ‘W.E. Gladstone

   ‘Hawarden

   ‘Jan. 2, 1897’

Things moved quickly in those days. The conversation took place on December 21. Booth’s published introductory note is dated Jan 6 and the book was in print soon after.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Bibliography  

Booth, William, A Talk with Mr Gladstone at His Own Fireside, London, 1897

                            In Darkest England and the Way Out, London 1890

Ervine, St John, God’s Soldier: General William Booth, London, 1934

Green, Roger Joseph, Theological Roots of In Darkest England and the Way Out, Nampa

Hattersley, Roy, Blood and Fire: William and Catherine Booth and Their Salvation Army, London, 1999

Murdoch, Norman H., Origins of The Salvation Army, Knoxville, 1994

William Booth’s In Darkest England and the Way Out: A Reappraisal, Nampa

Sandall, Robert, The History of The Salvation Army, vol. Two, London, 1950

                            The History of the Salvation Army, vol. Three, London, 1955

 

 

 

 

ERVINE, ST JOHN GREER 1883-1971

 

St John Ervine was born in Ballymacarret, Belfast. After working for three years in an insurance office he emigrated to London at the age of eighteen. For a short period in 1915 he was manager of the Abbey Theatre, where his plays Mixed Marriage, June Clegg and John Ferguson had already been succesful. He was wounded as a lieutenant in the Dublin Fusiliers, and had a leg amputated. He settled in the south west of England. He wrote biographies of Craigavon and Carson, of William Booth, Oscar Wilde and George Bernard Shaw, as well as publishing seven novels including The First Mrs Fraser and some plays, such as Boyd's Shop and Friends and Relations. Until 1939 he was drama critic for the Observer. He became a member of the Irish Academy of Letters and from 1933 to 1936 was Professor of Dramatic Literature for the Royal Society of Literature. His work reflects the change in his political stance away from nationalism and socialism towards unionism.


 


[1] I found only Booth Tucker’s Life of Catherine Booth, which had not been annotated. This probably means that it went unread. I hope to discuss the book and Gladstone’s annotations of it in a later paper. I would guess that Gladstone found Catherine on paper a more kindred spirit in some ways than he found her husband in person: she had a calmer, better-trained mind to ally to her equal reserved of fervour.

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

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